The Best States: Where Are Retirees Moving to?

John, afraid someone was looking at the wrong year’s United Van Lines results. For the survey published two weeks ago (for 2022), here are the top 10 inbound states, in order (no Wyoming):
Vermont
Oregon
Rhode Island
South Carolina
Delaware
North Carolina
Washington, D.C.
South Dakota
New Mexico
Alabama

If you go strictly by these results, you could say “The North Shall Rise Again.”

Editor's comment: Thanks Larry. You are correct, those are United Van Lines top states for inbound moves. But those stats represent all moves; the list we provided (with Wyoming at the top) is United's list of inbound states when the reason for moving was "Retirement". Still, I don't think Vermont is really the #1 state where retirees are moving. We have labeled that more clearly now.

I saw a report a few days ago for U-Haul one way moves (vehicle not returned to the place of rental). The most popular in this category was Texas. This could include one way moves within Texas. U-Haul rentals would probably be a different economic segment than United Van Lines and most likely includes those moving for employment reasons rather than for retirement.

Can't tell you how delighted many in California are to NOT be on this list. We've got plenty of people here already and our housing prices have skyrocketed over the past 5 years.

I mean this sincerely - no snark intended.

JCarol: Many in California are leaving to go to the other states!

Sorry Carol, but net migration to Cali may be just one more Arizona drought away. I read this morning that the Hughes Corp’s plans to build a development west of Phoenix for 100,000 people has been derailed because the organizers cannot come up with a required 100-year water plan. Also, the Colorado River, which multiple states rely on for drinking water, is increasingly susceptible during the frequent drought conditions. Cali taxes and traffic may actually start looking good to folks who fear they won’t have water to drink, or a drop in the value of their homes (evidence of this in some AZ areas). And for those of you Floridians and Carolinians who may be basking in the glow of schadenfreude, some of those AZers may be headed your way, bringing with them more stress to your roads and other infrastructure, perhaps even to your own water supplies. Better get out your divining rods.

I am really glad Washington is not on the list for inbound moves. We have way to many living here now. Ever since Amazon moved here prices on housing/taxes and everything else have skyrocketed. Unfortunately we make to much to get a discount on our taxes.

SandraF, the net out-migration from California to other states is literally a drop in the bucket against our population of over 39 million. Last year roughly 150K more moved out than in, which would be comparable to losing 38 people in a population center of 10K. A bare blip on the radar that's more than made up by births.

Larry, I sure hope that AZ finds a way through their water problems. I feel their pain. Most California residents are very water conscious. Rather than letting that liquid gold slide down sink or shower drains, many of us repurpose it to water plants and flush toilets.

Human migration to areas with lower populations, more space and additional resources has been our pattern since we began walking upright, and explains our presence on every continent.

JCarol, actually the history of migration says exactly the opposite on every continent. As most societies went from agrarian to industrialized, people moved — often in droves — from farms to cities, and it is still happening in most nations, especially the most-populated ones (e.g. China and India). The implication of that old song still rings true: “How can you keep ‘em down on the farm/Once they’ve seen Paree?” The only US cities that have lost population in recent decades, like Detroit and St. Louis, had awful leaders who helped make those cities barely livable. People didn’t leave because they had some natural desire for more space; they left for less crime, for jobs and for a better life (and lifestyle). And some, I daresay, left for other cities because they are tired of having to collect water from their showers in order to flush their toilets, although I find your conservation efforts commendable.

Larry, I doubt that many Arizonans will move to California, one Arizona drought away or not. (In my own small neighborhood I know of two retired couples who have actually moved from CA to AZ.) We here in CA are experiencing our own drought and I along with JCarol and thousands of others in this state are collecting and repurposing our water - and actually doing it gladly because it's the responsible thing to do. Aside from the Arizona drought not leading to a mass migration of Arizonans to California, there are a host of other reasons many in AZ would not want to come to CA, one being that CA politics are significantly different from AZ politics. We also have our share of crime, high housing costs, crowded freeways, high taxes, and homelessness - so unless someone is really enamored of our perfect weather, our beautiful coastline, or is being transferred her for a job, I don't see people moving here - and I'm fine with that.

Joann, I appreciate your point but I was responding to JCarol’s point that, throughout history, people have chosen to move from cities to rural areas. That is just not so. As for your retired friends moving from one drought state (CA) to another drought state (AZ), and with apologies for the mixed metaphor and bad pun, that seems like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Of course, there are other good — and personal — reasons for relocating.

Larry, your point is well taken that historically many move to urban centers. Nevertheless, humans did indeed migrate to places with few or zero humans, which is how our species spread throughout the planet from its African origins.

As work-from-home opportunities expand we may see population drops in large urban centers in favor of smaller towns and cities. Hard to know.

With respect to repurposing water, after moving to Southern California over 50 years ago, being water-wise soon became as much second nature to me as earthquake safety. Neither is the burden some might think.

No place on the planet is without benefits, drawbacks and sacrifices. A friend left Hawaii (left Hawaii???) for Los Angeles because he just couldn't take the "island fever" anymore. After going to college on the mainland, returning to Hawaii made him feel claustrophobic.

Good Morning. Even as a Mature Male [ know some think Mature & Me is an Oxymoron!!] but from experience do enjoy "Living Downtown" more. Can Walk everywhere, see more People, better Cafes.
Result a better Social Life. Found out that living in the Burbs is overrated & living in the Country is too isolated. Even for Grey Hairs, a Guy/Girl/Couple can have Fun & drive to visit The Burbs or out to the Country. City Life is alive!!

I moved from coastal Los Angeles (Palos Verdes Peninsula) to El Paso, Texas five years ago. I miss California politics! I also miss the milder climate. However, I retired earlier than I initially planned because of some issues beyond my control, and was happy to pay cash for a brand new, ultra modern home with significant cash left for my nest egg. These retirement decisions are so individualized, so complex, with so many factors to consider. I miss California's medical facilities. Here you see nurse practitioners before you can see a doctor, if you see one at all, in some places. I also feel that El Paso has a lot to offer culturally, but no comparison to Southern California. I can live with my decision. I see others who move. There are few that don't have some negatives along with the positives to contend with. Fortunately for me I have no serious health issues and am basically enjoying retirement.

I found this article in the AARP magazine and it is online too. It is very disturbing and might be something those who are going to live in independent living complexes might want to investigate on the security the facility has. This article indicated that the facilities officials were not all that interested in their clients deaths due to the fact that they were all elderly. They also didn't take care to have much for security or cameras. This one man was able to slip in and pretend to be a maintenance worker, knock on a door, kill the client and steal jewelry and valuables. This person was a serial killer and went to various facilities and kept repeating his crimes.
https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/advocacy/info-2022/texas-elder-murders.html

We live in Central Virginia. I’m exploring the possibility of living near Tampa during colder months in Virginia and retaining our home in Virginia to live during warmer months. I’m retired Navy. Living near a military base is our preference. Home containing two master bedroom suites also preferred joined by family room/kitchen. As we approach 90’s in age, dinning, transportation, gym, and of coarse medical facilities conveniently located.

Carl, Tampa and Virginia would be in an interesting snowbird combination. Tampa has a ton of towns and retirement communities to choose from - on or near the coast, inland a bit, etc. Great idea to have 2 MBRs, preferably all on one floor so steps get taken out of the occasion.